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Jim Webster
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 Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Elaine Jones" <elaine@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quoting from message <5c9qe6F2vt2fsU1@mid.individual.net
posted on 1 Jun 2007 by Jim Webster
I would like to add:
Sile pads is the English ;-)
Maybe it's just not Welsh English!
At least it is the word that I was brought up with, so it may be a term
general throughout the North of England, you could have it from your Dad.
I did wonder whether it was a Northern or Yorkshire term - we say
"It's siling down" when there's a downpour.
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yes, I've heard it used and even used it myself in polite company in place
of a stronger term ;-))
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buddenbrooks
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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The rfi cards that we're
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supposed to be getting soon are intended to get around even this but I
can't
help thinking that they'll be a gift for any thief wandering through
crowdwd
places with a portable reader - no, cash still has life in it yet.
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When I was travelling through Hong Kong I noted that credit card wallets
were being sold with metel plates built in, presumably to screen the cards. |
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buddenbrooks
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"greymaus" <greymaus@gmaildo.tcom> wrote in message
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On 2007-05-30, Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
how many people just pay cash at these auctions, cheque or credit card
would
at least mean that purchasers could be traced, even if you weren't too
sure
of what they purchased
Almost by definition, cash (at least here, last time I was at a fair).
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Note that the US homeland protection is researching the viability of
making US bills WiFi and mandating retailers to use
readers on the tills connected to a federal database. Even if individuals
are not traceable the shops that a note passed through and the original
person gettiing the money from the bank and the final person paying back in
will be.
Interestingly it will force drug dealers etc to deal in lots of low
denomination notes as customers will only use 'change' not notes dispensed
to them from the bank or ATM and thus traceable. Make carrying more than
$100 in notes under $50 an offence and you have made life difficult. |
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Derek Moody
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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In article <f3rpkk$du6$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk>, buddenbrooks
<URL:mailto:buddenbrooks@aol.de> wrote:
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ant301522965BxcK@strongarm.dereks.pad...
The rfi cards that we're
supposed to be getting soon are intended to get around even this but I
can't
help thinking that they'll be a gift for any thief wandering through
crowdwd
places with a portable reader - no, cash still has life in it yet.
When I was travelling through Hong Kong I noted that credit card wallets
were being sold with metel plates built in, presumably to screen the cards.
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All very well but you have to put the card (and your passport) into the
wallet and close the wallet correctly - then the card has to be removed from
the wallet for the 'Wave the card somewhere near the reader' function to
work properly and then you have to put it back correctly - every time. What
percentage of slightly careless cardholders would you expect to be enough to
make it worthwhile for a few electronic pickpockets to stroll through the
railway station at rush hour - or down any high street during the Christmas
shopping frenzy?
Cheerio,
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Derek Moody
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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In article <f3rq4j$96n$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, buddenbrooks
<URL:mailto:buddenbrooks@aol.de> wrote:
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Note that the US homeland protection is researching the viability of
making US bills WiFi and mandating retailers to use
readers on the tills connected to a federal database. Even if individuals
are not traceable the shops that a note passed through and the original
person gettiing the money from the bank and the final person paying back in
will be.
Interestingly it will force drug dealers etc to deal in lots of low
denomination notes as customers will only use 'change' not notes dispensed
to them from the bank or ATM and thus traceable. Make carrying more than
$100 in notes under $50 an offence and you have made life difficult.
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Then there's the low-life with a wifi reader who now knows you're carrying a
large sum of money and therefore worth mugging...
Cheerio,
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Jim Webster
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <f3rq4j$96n$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, buddenbrooks
URL:mailto:buddenbrooks@aol.de> wrote:
Note that the US homeland protection is researching the viability of
making US bills WiFi and mandating retailers to use
readers on the tills connected to a federal database. Even if individuals
are not traceable the shops that a note passed through and the original
person gettiing the money from the bank and the final person paying back
in
will be.
Interestingly it will force drug dealers etc to deal in lots of low
denomination notes as customers will only use 'change' not notes
dispensed
to them from the bank or ATM and thus traceable. Make carrying more than
$100 in notes under $50 an offence and you have made life difficult.
Then there's the low-life with a wifi reader who now knows you're carrying
a
large sum of money and therefore worth mugging...
Cheerio,
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at what point to people automatically start wearing wifi jammers ?
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Linda Sutherland
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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In message <5cdtv6F2vr7k5U1@mid.individual.net>
"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk>wrote:
I read that as 'wifi jamas'. :-)
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Jim Webster
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Linda Sutherland" <linda.sutherland@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <5cdtv6F2vr7k5U1@mid.individual.net
"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk>wrote:
wifi jammers
I read that as 'wifi jamas'. :-)
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gives a whole new meaning to 'hot wired' ;-))
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <f3rpkk$du6$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk>, buddenbrooks
What
percentage of slightly careless cardholders would you expect to be enough
to
make it worthwhile for a few electronic pickpockets to stroll through the
railway station at rush hour - or down any high street during the
Christmas
shopping frenzy?
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From the pickpockets perspective correct, from an individual's perspective
the defence is 100%.
Also there must be a market for an active powered device which you could
carry which would respond to an interigation signal with
a larger response correctly formatted data with void fields. Given that the
design of these cards is to work on a range of a few inches
the interfering signals would be low level and would not prevent legitimate
users nearby from having their cards scanned. Such a device would use the
same circuitry as a real card and need only be the same size, i.e. one
additional card in the wallet. |
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buddenbrooks
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <f3rq4j$96n$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, buddenbrooks
Then there's the low-life with a wifi reader who now knows you're carrying
a
large sum of money and therefore worth mugging...
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Well it would save us poor innocents being bothered by the ladies of the
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Derek Moody
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:11 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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In article <5cdtv6F2vr7k5U1@mid.individual.net>, Jim Webster
<URL:mailto:jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <f3rq4j$96n$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, buddenbrooks
URL:mailto:buddenbrooks@aol.de> wrote:
Note that the US homeland protection is researching the viability of
making US bills WiFi and mandating retailers to use
Then there's the low-life with a wifi reader who now knows you're carrying
a
large sum of money and therefore worth mugging...
at what point to people automatically start wearing wifi jammers ?
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As that will automatically negate the whole point of rfi/wifi cards and rfi
tracking labels (in anything from your purchases to your little cotton
socks) I expect it will be declared illegal - it may already be under
wireless licencing laws.
The ostensible object of rfi is to 'ease' your shopping experirence and to
track garbage disposal - so the flytipped black bags in your farm gate can
be traced back to the tipper.
But
It would also make it possible to track your every move - as you pass a rfi
reading lamppost it can download the ID of every rfi chip on (and in) your
person and from them also the ID of other rfi chips that have interacted
with them recently.
As you enter a shop the doorway will read the chip in the aforementioned
sock - discovering that it was bought just before Christmas at a
competitor's store by someone too young to have a credit card. That at home
you have goods from seven other stores including a great number of girl's
toys. That you own a freezer that is reporting a fault and that you have
just come from the white goods department of another rival store...
The organised thief will read your sock-chip when you pause in the Rose and
Crown and note that at home you have several boxes from an upmarket
jewelry store.
Cheerio,
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Derek Moody
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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In article <31303030323536384661D4D488@zetnet.co.uk>, Linda Sutherland
<URL:mailto:linda.sutherland@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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In message <5cdtv6F2vr7k5U1@mid.individual.net
"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk>wrote:
wifi jammers
I read that as 'wifi jamas'.
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Rfi 'jamas' are inevitable. See other post.
Cheerio,
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