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 Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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Quoting from message <w2SvcyZu9gXGFw$Q@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk>
posted on 31 May 2007 by Oh No
I would like to add:
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Chelford is a pretty big market.
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What's the catchment area?
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Jim Webster
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Elaine Jones" <elaine@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a26655eb4e.E@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk...
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Quoting from message <5c6dsaF2vqfeqU1@mid.individual.net
posted on 30 May 2007 by Jim Webster
I would like to add:
other thing I was going to ask,
Has he ever admitted that Steve found the evidence of hospitals using the
full body scanners for sheep?
I think he remarked that these were not NHS hospitals - or words to
that effect.
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isn't it cute when he wriggles
Remember the CD debacle when he accused me of being in the pay of the
government and when I said that he recieved a regular payment he got quite
excited, and then accused me of covering up details.
Except I'd given him the details in a post six weeks earlier
I think people ought to realise he is very ill and just leave him to his
family and his doctors, poking him with sticks and getting him wound up is
doubtless bad for him,
I suppose he'll make threats to sue and huff and puff but his problem is
that he is the one making wild allegations that he cannot produce evidence
for
People who accuse others of belonging to cults but can produce no evidence
for this really ought to listen more to their doctors, especially if under
medication
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Jim Webster
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
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Jim Webster wrote:
"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:465db6fc$0$8756$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
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In newsnet you are judged entirely on what you write.
Without any introduction or explanation you inferred that an article
about a farmer ignoring the regulations about the disposal of his
sheep in a location about 400 miles from Chelford Market might have
some relevance.
it may be that he has never heard of the fallen stock scheme, which
isn't an unreasonable oversight for someone not from the EU
Except that the article mentioned it
;)
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all we can say is that he can write
nothing so far shows ability to read ;-)
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Malcolm
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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In article <465de8be$0$8715$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Jill
<mail@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> writes
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"Malcolm" <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <465de28a$0$8751$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Jill
mail@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> writes
"Malcolm" <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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back to Islay
In the usual (!) glorious sunshine, of course :-)
All day?
There was a shower last night and a bit of cloud this morning which
quickly dispersed. Thin high cloud now moving in from the east. Otherwise
all day :-)
It was quite revolting here -- drizzly in the morning with midges complete
with tackety boots.
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It's been generally too breezy for the little dears here, though
admittedly I haven't deliberately gone into a sheltered glen to find
them!
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It deteriorated to diabolical this afternoon.
Clearing finally now
Cute corncrakes !
Cute Golden Eagles!
so commonplace !!
;)
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Jill
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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Old Codger wrote:
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Jill wrote:
It crossed my mind -- Pat knows I have kilfiled him, as have most of
the rest of the readership of this group, and I don't bother
checking google groups for his posts so maybe he has generated a
personna to get reaction that he cannot inspire himself.
Unlikely since the posting host appears to be in NJ.
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Oh - I did not think it was actually Pat writing them - he has not the
skills
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Jill
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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Derek Moody wrote:
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In article <465da108$0$8720$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Jill
URL:mailto:news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
Derek Moody wrote:
Birds get flu - they always have and they always will.
No they don't.
Hasty Jill? Of course they do or AI would be extinct.
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Your inference throughout, which of course you will deny, as usual, was that
this was just par for the course and perfectly usual and normal in the
poultry keeping world large or small
AI in any population is not common or usual. It is not like human flu which
a greater proportion of any human population are likely to catch each year
let alone numbers of times in any one lifetime
This is NOT the case in poultry and it should not even be intimated that it
is.
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Mostly the trade deals with it as a matter of routine
Not unless they are particularly stupid
They would be very stupid not to have a routine to deal with it.
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But its not routine to have to deal with it.
Strategies are in place for any disease breach but that does not mean they
are expected, normal, routine or run of the mill.
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- as they did even with H5N1 until recent scare stories.
Wrong again
Even H5N1 - Scotland 1959 & England 1991 for eg.
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Not routine, very isolated and dealt with rapidily
The tenor of your post suggested that AI was commonplace -- its not and
never has been
Hence my terse refutations.
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This mini outbreak is nothing for the general population** to worry
about.
** Jill might have reason to worry.
Wrong again as a poultry keepr or as a person
Fair enough - you're clearly paying it plenty of attention but from
here I can't tell whether it's academic interest, customer relations,
niggling doubt or full-blown nightmares - hence the 'might'.
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I have no fears as a person, H7N2 is mild and, for this one, I am unlikely
to come into direct contact with the birds.
I spend my days talking to poultry / waterfowl keepers so feel its my
responsibility to know whats happening, especially when there is so much
ridiculous information being bandied about. The foibles of the internet ;)
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- Aside: What has the backward spring done for the midge population?
Does it look to be any worse than usual this year?
- asking for touring visitors.
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HORRENDOUS -- no frost all winter -- they are early, they are everywhere,
and they are biting.
The weather is playing directly into their mouths ! - showery having had
several warm dry weeks in April
;(
Avon Skin so soft / Jungle formula / Midge hoods are recommended
I know thats not politically correct for tourist attraction but until we get
some decent dry weather they are bad.
But the flip side is that the whole area is looking GLORIOUS -- VERDANT;
the weather has brought the rhodies out and everywhere looks amazing.
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Jill Bowis
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Jill
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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Elaine Jones wrote:
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Quoting from message <5c6dsaF2vqfeqU1@mid.individual.net
posted on 30 May 2007 by Jim Webster
I would like to add:
other thing I was going to ask,
Has he ever admitted that Steve found the evidence of hospitals
using the full body scanners for sheep?
I think he remarked that these were not NHS hospitals - or words to
that effect.
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From information Jim provided there was an easy search for a paper
dsecribing what he said
;)
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Jill Bowis
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Jill
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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Oh No wrote:
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Thanks Charles for the great insight
Is 1400 quite a lot of birds then, especially with a busy auction
timetable or did they have lots of different sale rooms?
They rattle through the lots, up to about 120per hour. 1400 is quite a
busy auction, but I think it was normal to have more birds per cage at
Chelford. They can probably sell up to about 400 birds per hour. The
larger auctions go up to over 2000 birds. Usually they run at least
two auctions simultaneously. Often four, waterfowl, bantams, large
fowl and equipment. Chelford is a pretty big market. When we were
there the birds were sold a good distance from where they sold other
animals. On that occasion it was an evening auction and nothing else
was being sold at the time.
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Thanks -- much appreciated.
Hope they have improved their computer skills since
;)
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Jill Bowis
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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On 2007-05-30, jerrymarshalihan@gmail.com <jerrymarshalihan@gmail.com> wrote:
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it's clear now. hopefully others can see.
On 30 May, 14:56, "Jill" <n...@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
jerrymarshali...@gmail.com wrote:
For someone who has so much to say on everything else,
No -- just things that are important to me.
you are
sheepishly quiet with regards to this. I'll let your answer stand for
itself.
Indeedy
As will the few words you have written since creating your very recent
online persona.
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Jill
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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Malcolm wrote:
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It's been generally too breezy for the little dears here, though
admittedly I haven't deliberately gone into a sheltered glen to find
them!
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LOL
We usually get away with the breeziness being so close to the sea but maybe
because the vegetation we have planted is begining to mature nicely or just
because they are out in force this year, but everyone is noticing them up
here.
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Jill Bowis
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Howard Neil
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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Old Codger wrote:
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Jill wrote:
It crossed my mind -- Pat knows I have kilfiled him, as have most of
the rest of the readership of this group, and I don't bother checking
google groups for his posts so maybe he has generated a personna to
get reaction that he cannot inspire himself.
Unlikely since the posting host appears to be in NJ.
I was already wondering about this latest US persona to appear. Yet
another who appears sympathetic to Pat, initially appears to be
genuinely looking for information and/or advice yet almost immediately
antagonises those regulars best fitted to provide that information or
advice. Perhaps Malcolm is right, they are the renowned "monitors". :-)
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There are always plenty of trolls who will jump on any bandwagon just to
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Malcolm
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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In article <465e802d$0$8711$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Jill
<news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> writes
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Malcolm wrote:
It's been generally too breezy for the little dears here, though
admittedly I haven't deliberately gone into a sheltered glen to find
them!
LOL
We usually get away with the breeziness being so close to the sea but maybe
because the vegetation we have planted is begining to mature nicely or just
because they are out in force this year, but everyone is noticing them up
here.
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Pat Gardiner
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Elaine Jones" <elaine@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quoting from message <5c6dsaF2vqfeqU1@mid.individual.net
posted on 30 May 2007 by Jim Webster
I would like to add:
other thing I was going to ask,
Has he ever admitted that Steve found the evidence of hospitals using the
full body scanners for sheep?
I think he remarked that these were not NHS hospitals - or words to
that effect.
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I don't read Frith, but I did read Websters pathetic attempts eventually to
provide some substantiation and if you look back, you fill find that he was
as usual being misleading and economical with the truth.
I took considerable treouble to check the references, which may well have
been provided by Frith to assist Webster. I asked him several times over
quite a long period before he posted anything - and that was full of holes
and most certainly did not tie up with what Webster had been claiming.
I continue to be amazed that Farmers Guardian and the CLA have anything to
do with someone continuing to claim that pigs are being scanned by the NHS.
It says a great deal about standards in British farming and its continuing
propensity to generate and spread rural myths, the more damaging the better.
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Pat Gardiner
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Re: USA Media |
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"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Elaine Jones" <elaine@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a26655eb4e.E@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk...
Quoting from message <5c6dsaF2vqfeqU1@mid.individual.net
posted on 30 May 2007 by Jim Webster
I would like to add:
other thing I was going to ask,
Has he ever admitted that Steve found the evidence of hospitals using
the
full body scanners for sheep?
I think he remarked that these were not NHS hospitals - or words to
that effect.
isn't it cute when he wriggles
Remember the CD debacle when he accused me of being in the pay of the
government and when I said that he recieved a regular payment he got quite
excited, and then accused me of covering up details.
Except I'd given him the details in a post six weeks earlier
I think people ought to realise he is very ill and just leave him to his
family and his doctors, poking him with sticks and getting him wound up is
doubtless bad for him,
I suppose he'll make threats to sue and huff and puff but his problem is
that he is the one making wild allegations that he cannot produce evidence
for
People who accuse others of belonging to cults but can produce no evidence
for this really ought to listen more to their doctors, especially if under
medication
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Nonsense yet again.
I think it would be in everyone's interests if you ceased posting and got on
with some work. I appreciate that you use this group as a means of
inspiration for your articles, which is harmless enough, but you don't need
to post to do that. A daily read would be just as effective.
I can see that over the last couple of years you have made a very
considerable effort to clean up your act. You have lost the Vance nonsense,
ceased juvenile abuse of political figures and in general have been less
aggressive. Your nasty legacy remains however with some of your less
talented friends taking over your role as chief bully.
You continue nonsense brawling with animal rights and welfare people, which
is especially stupid. Although you occasionally slip, the tormenting of
newcomers has become less frequent and unpleasant at least by you.
Whether, as someone here has suggested, you really have become a "born
again" and are making an effort to reform, I don't know. Following your
amazing accidental posting of that petition for prayers, I did check and
noticed that you have ceased posting to atheist groups.
However, it may just be continuing evidence of a double life in which you
have one normal personality in Cumbria and something quite different here.
That would certainly be consistent with your Vance stuff in which you
strongly advocate deception as a means of self and group entertainment,
perhaps even advancement.
In short, you may be making progress but the welcome changes, which do not
go far enough, may just be your usual deceitful games. We shall have to see.
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Elaine Jones
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Quoting from message <5c9qe6F2vt2fsU1@mid.individual.net>
posted on 1 Jun 2007 by Jim Webster
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Sile pads is the English ;-)
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Maybe it's just not Welsh English!
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At least it is the word that I was brought up with, so it may be a term
general throughout the North of England, you could have it from your Dad.
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I did wonder whether it was a Northern or Yorkshire term - we say
"It's siling down" when there's a downpour.
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