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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: Mobile homes??? |
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Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home? We are
considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but there is no
way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of access issues.
However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take it, we could tow a
10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a new home with a tractor or
4wd.
Is this a goer??
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:07 am Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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<srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
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Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home? We are
considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but there is no
way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of access issues.
However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take it, we could tow a
10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a new home with a tractor or
4wd.
Is this a goer??
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No. Statics are no use for teenagers. Their racket can reach for miles
You need an old caravan. Simply hitch up in the night and dump them in a
lay-by somewhere far far away.
You need strong nerves and a touch of unscrupulousness for dealing with
teenagers.
It will not work, but nothing works. You can only pretend to be one step
ahead.
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Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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The message <dbydnc4_wprT597bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@pipex.net>
from srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk contains these words:
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Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home? We are
considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but there is no
way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of access issues.
However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take it, we could tow a
10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a new home with a tractor or
4wd.
Is this a goer??
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Yes, so long as the tyres are not perished. If they look dodgy then
replace them with new, and while you are at it check the wheel bearings
which should be ok.
The running gear on a static van is designed soley for manouvering the
thing, so if you are towing it over a distance then take it very
steadily and you will be fine so long as the tyres are in good
condition.
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All the best,
Stubbsy. |
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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On 2007-05-10, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk <srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
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Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home? We are
considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but there is no
way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of access issues.
However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take it, we could tow a
10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a new home with a tractor or
4wd.
Is this a goer??
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Did it years ago for a neighbour. The length was a problem, as
anywhere other than a public road, the ends would be hitting ground..
and that one was very rusty underneath.. (afraid that it would crack
the chassis).. Wouldn't do it again, but the travellers seem to have
no problem.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
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Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home? We
are considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but there
is no way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of access
issues. However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take it, we
could tow a 10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a new home
with a tractor or 4wd.
Is this a goer??
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Its done around here where there are LOTS of statics
Slowly, carefully, with lots of preparation and measuring for height and
length. Across the diagonal too.
Make sure everything under neath is in as good a condition as you can
Don't bottom out ! and have a contingency to get it out ;)
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regards
Jill Bowis
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Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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In article <PuOdnTMHGvYzCt7bnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@bt.com>,
patgardiner@btinternet.com (Pat Gardiner) wrote:
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Is this a goer??
No. Statics are no use for teenagers. Their racket can reach for miles
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Ultimate sanction is that I have control over the power supply!
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You need an old caravan. Simply hitch up in the night and dump them
in a lay-by somewhere far far away.
You need strong nerves and a touch of unscrupulousness for dealing
with teenagers.
It will not work, but nothing works. You can only pretend to be one
step ahead.
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On the whole they are not bad kids, Just that eldest daughter has
informed us that she "needs her own space"!!!!!
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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In article <31303030333038334643A93B94@zetnet.co.uk>,
stubbs@zetnet.co.uk (Gerald L R Stubbs) wrote:
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*From:* Gerald L R Stubbs <stubbs@zetnet.co.uk
*Date:* Thu, 10 May 2007 23:22:35 +0100
The message <dbydnc4_wprT597bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@pipex.net
from srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk contains these words:
Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home?
We are considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but
there is no way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of
access issues. However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take
it, we could tow a 10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a
new home with a tractor or 4wd.
Is this a goer??
Yes, so long as the tyres are not perished. If they look dodgy then
replace them with new, and while you are at it check the wheel
bearings
which should be ok.
The running gear on a static van is designed soley for manouvering the
thing, so if you are towing it over a distance then take it very
steadily and you will be fine so long as the tyres are in good
condition.
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Good points and noted Stubbsy! Some have solids I believe??
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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In article <slrnf479ml.ut9.greymaus@mausd.edu>, greymaus@gmaildo.tcom ()
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*From:* greymaus@gmaildo.tcom
*Date:* 10 May 2007 23:03:49 GMT
On 2007-05-10, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk
srawlings@cix.compulink.co.ukwrote:
Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home?
We are considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but
there is no way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of
access issues. However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take
it, we could tow a 10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a
new home with a tractor or 4wd.
Is this a goer??
Did it years ago for a neighbour. The length was a problem, as
anywhere other than a public road, the ends would be hitting ground..
and that one was very rusty underneath.. (afraid that it would crack
the chassis).. Wouldn't do it again, but the travellers seem to have
no problem.
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The grounding of the back end is one of my real worries and I note that |
Jill also mentions it. I /think/ I can get a 28' down the lane... just
Any longer will have to come over the fields in Summer. The easies way
would be to borrow a flatbed trailer, but getting the thing on an off
will be a problem unless I can find some hi-lift jacks to get it 4' in
the air!
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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In article <4643a79f$0$8724$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>,
news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk (Jill) wrote:
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Is this a goer??
Its done around here where there are LOTS of statics
Slowly, carefully, with lots of preparation and measuring for height
and length. Across the diagonal too.
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I suspect that a load ot stone may be a sensible option to grade out a
couple of hollows to prevent grounding! Height of trees can be an issue
but I hope that a chainsaw can resolve any little problems...
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Make sure everything under neath is in as good a condition as you can
Don't bottom out ! and have a contingency to get it out ;)
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Chassis seems to be an issue that several folks have noted as is
grounding and I will bear this in mind Contingency plan A is a big
tractor and chain!!!
The more I think about the problem, the more the borrowing of a 24' bale
trailer appeals if I can resolve the problem of getting the ststic on
and off the trailer. Here at home is not a problem as we can always use
a pallet loader to lift and then lower one end at a time which we have
done before.
We needed to lift a 3' container off a wagon here and used two loaders,
one at each end to lift and then the wagon pulled away, and we then
dropped the container gently to the ground. Worked well.
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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In article <31303030333038334643A93B94@zetnet.co.uk>,
Gerald L R Stubbs <stubbs@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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The message <dbydnc4_wprT597bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@pipex.net
from srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk contains these words:
Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home? We are
considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but there is no
way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of access issues.
However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take it, we could tow a
10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a new home with a tractor or
4wd.
Is this a goer??
Yes, so long as the tyres are not perished. If they look dodgy then
replace them with new, and while you are at it check the wheel bearings
which should be ok.
The running gear on a static van is designed soley for manouvering the
thing, so if you are towing it over a distance then take it very
steadily and you will be fine so long as the tyres are in good
condition.
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I'd echo that. We've moved them with a tractor, a transit van and a
landrover. The tyres are the bit to worry about - they *will* be
perished if they've stood for any length of time: important to jack up
and support on blocks once in final resting place.
The vans themselves are generally very light - the actual towing is not
a problem and IME they're more robust than they look: we swopped an old
one for a couple of bags of dog food and it was towed away up a very
bumpy track with no problems (by a transit van). We gave another one
away (complete with sitting tenant) and that was pulled up the same
track, a mile down the road and up an even worse track for half a mile
with no damage at all (tractor that time).
There are loads of static vans tucked away all over the place round here
(mostly ex-Great Yarmouth holiday caravans) and swapping sound wheels
and tyres around when they need to be moved is something of a communal
activity: if you can find solid wheels they won't need pumping up, but
people might try and borrow them quite often!
One last point, the people who transport second-hand static vans are
masters of getting long trucks to places they really shouldn't be able
to go... might be worth asking first?
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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On 2007-05-11, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk <srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
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In article <slrnf479ml.ut9.greymaus@mausd.edu>, greymaus@gmaildo.tcom ()
wrote:
*From:* greymaus@gmaildo.tcom
*Date:* 10 May 2007 23:03:49 GMT
On 2007-05-10, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk
srawlings@cix.compulink.co.ukwrote:
Has anyone got any experience of moving a static van/mobile home?
We are considering getting hold of one as a teenagers bolthole but
there is no way that a truck could deliver to the farm because of
access issues. However, if the axle, wheels and chassis would take
it, we could tow a 10'X28' very slowly off the nearest road to a
new home with a tractor or 4wd.
Is this a goer??
Did it years ago for a neighbour. The length was a problem, as
anywhere other than a public road, the ends would be hitting ground..
and that one was very rusty underneath.. (afraid that it would crack
the chassis).. Wouldn't do it again, but the travellers seem to have
no problem.
--
The grounding of the back end is one of my real worries and I note that
Jill also mentions it. I /think/ I can get a 28' down the lane... just
Any longer will have to come over the fields in Summer. The easies way
would be to borrow a flatbed trailer, but getting the thing on an off
will be a problem unless I can find some hi-lift jacks to get it 4' in
the air!
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Some Ivor Williams (trailers) owners have jacks to remove the stock
bodies when they just need the flat bed.. dunno about 4' though.. As
before, check under to see if the chassis is sound (Trailers are built
to be supported by the wheels, not by jacks each end)
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Greymaus
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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<srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <PuOdnTMHGvYzCt7bnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@bt.com>,
patgardiner@btinternet.com (Pat Gardiner) wrote:
Is this a goer??
No. Statics are no use for teenagers. Their racket can reach for miles
Ultimate sanction is that I have control over the power supply!
You need an old caravan. Simply hitch up in the night and dump them
in a lay-by somewhere far far away.
You need strong nerves and a touch of unscrupulousness for dealing
with teenagers.
It will not work, but nothing works. You can only pretend to be one
step ahead.
On the whole they are not bad kids, Just that eldest daughter has
informed us that she "needs her own space"!!!!!
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They all say that. I always found that "tidy up your bedroom and we will
talk about it", worked wonders. Especially when the underwear covering the
floor was thrown out the widnow for the postman to find.
I think, thinking back, that the inevitable arrival of the wilder elements
of Young Farmers togther with ghetto blaster and generator would outmanouver
any substantial respectable citizen with attractive daughter(s), even if he
did have his hand on the plug.
However, such is life, daughters and rural Britain. You spend your entire
time beating off unsuitable suitors, only to find that your wife has a soft
spot for all the worst culprits.
Now, I have eight teenage grandchildren, mostly girls, I'm the one that sits
back and chuckles whilst sons-in-law sweat.
Interestingly, I asked one of my daughters recently "was I too heavy
handed?" I genuinely expected to be told I was terrible.
To my considerable surprise, I learned that daughters do look to their
fathers to vet their suitors to some extent. Not a lot, but a bit and that
"bit" seems important to them.
Pat
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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In article <ahickley-6F23B4.10584811052007@free.teranews.com>,
ahickley@mac.com (Andrew) wrote:
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I'd echo that. We've moved them with a tractor, a transit van and a
landrover. The tyres are the bit to worry about - they *will* be
perished if they've stood for any length of time: important to jack
up and support on blocks once in final resting place.
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Not much more than standard tyres I guess? Possibly a loan is needed at
the time.
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The vans themselves are generally very light - the actual towing is
not a problem and IME they're more robust than they look: we swopped
an old one for a couple of bags of dog food and it was towed away up
a very bumpy track with no problems (by a transit van). We gave
another one away (complete with sitting tenant) and that was pulled
up the same track, a mile down the road and up an even worse track
for half a mile with no damage at all (tractor that time).
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Sounds very hopeful, albeit a job for Summer across the grassland to
ease the access issues.
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There are loads of static vans tucked away all over the place round
here (mostly ex-Great Yarmouth holiday caravans) and swapping sound
wheels and tyres around when they need to be moved is something of a
communal activity: if you can find solid wheels they won't need
pumping up, but people might try and borrow them quite often!
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Sadly, we are a bit far away from the coast, though Wales may be a
possible source of ex-rental models at the right price Not sure I
want one from near the seaside though with all the potential corrosion
issues that may occur!
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One last point, the people who transport second-hand static vans are
masters of getting long trucks to places they really shouldn't be
able to go... might be worth asking first?
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Goos point indeed.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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Quoting from message <6pCdnQSUF6Bt5trbnZ2dnUVZ8sylnZ2d@pipex.net>
posted on 13 May 2007 by srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk
I would like to add:
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Sadly, we are a bit far away from the coast, though Wales may be a
possible source of ex-rental models at the right price Not sure I
want one from near the seaside though with all the potential corrosion
issues that may occur!
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There are ones around Bala.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Mobile homes??? |
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<srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
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In article <ahickley-6F23B4.10584811052007@free.teranews.com>,
ahickley@mac.com (Andrew) wrote:
Not much more than standard tyres I guess? Possibly a loan is needed at
the time.
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Possibly cheaper, they hardly need rating for very high speed ( I hope) . |
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