Food and beverages Food and beverages    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Old sayings Goto page 1, 2  Next          Food and beverages Forum Index -> Food and beverages View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Old sayings Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? -- Steve Rawlings Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Andrew Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings In article <mbqdnU4RBZJFF93bnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@pipex.net>, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: Quote: Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? Yup, and isn't it odd how one ash tree can be getting towards full leaf and its neighbour looks like it's still in mid-winter... -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Elaine Jones Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings Quoting from message <mbqdnU4RBZJFF93bnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@pipex.net> posted on 8 May 2007 by srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk I would like to add: Quote: Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? Yes. Jones said that he'd seen/heard that the oak responds to temperature warming whilst the ash responds to daylight lengthening. -- ..ElaineJ. Home Pages and FAQ of uk.food+drink.indian can be viewed at ..Virtual. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/ejones/ufdi/index.html StrongArm Under construction, FAQ, recipes, tips, booklist, links ..RISC PC. Questions and suggestions please, email or to the newsgroup Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Derek Moody Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings In article <mbqdnU4RBZJFF93bnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@pipex.net>, <URL:mailto:srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. Our version: When the oak is out before the ash, expect a summer of wet and splash. When the ash is out before the oak, expect a summer of dust and smoke. Quote: I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? The horse chestnut candles are over, drifts of browning blossom everywhere. We used to expect them to be in full fig around Whitsun. Nearest ash dormant - but it's always a late one. Nearest oak behind horse chestnusts so I'll have to walk around and go look. Cheerio, -- Quote: derek@farm-direct.co.uk http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/ Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings On 2007-05-08, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk <srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? -- Steve Rawlings Some ashs are green, others entirely bare. Must look at our oaks. -- Greymaus Just another grumpy old man Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Steve Firth Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: Old sayings Derek Moody <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote: Quote: The horse chestnut candles are over, Not here, and we're within stone's throw of the south coast. I can see both Southampton and Portsmouth from the top of the nearest hill. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: Old sayings In article <ahickley-5BCED3.16091508052007@free.teranews.com>, ahickley@mac.com (Andrew) wrote: Quote: *From:* Andrew <ahickley@mac.com *Date:* Tue, 08 May 2007 16:09:15 +0100 In article <mbqdnU4RBZJFF93bnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@pipex.net>, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? Yup, and isn't it odd how one ash tree can be getting towards full leaf and its neighbour looks like it's still in mid-winter... True, we had one walker wondering if there was some disease hitting the ash. Quote: -- Steve Rawlings Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Derek Moody Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: Old sayings In article <1hxtdlw.10vnsfbqfc1q8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth <URL:mailto:usenet-uba@malloc.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Derek Moody <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote: The horse chestnut candles are over, Not here, and we're within stone's throw of the south coast. I can see both Southampton and Portsmouth from the top of the nearest hill. You must be about 60 miles east of me - funny how tyings change over so short a distance. Cheerio, -- Quote: derek@farm-direct.co.uk http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/ Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings On Tue, 08 May 2007 09:36:08 -0500, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: Quote: I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? same here funnily enough my foreman commented on the fact this morning Kevin Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings On May 8, 4:36 pm, srawli...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: Quote: Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? -- Steve Rawlings The same observation applies to SW Denmark. All our ashes remain dormant (as one would expect for this time of year) -- but all the old oaks in our garden have been in full leaf for several weeks, and _that_ is quite extraordinary. I link it to all months having being warmer than normal, since august last year, indeed with several months having set respectable new all time records. Apparently the oaks are sensitive to that, while the ashes stubbornly remain faithful to the calendar. Same observation goes for beeches vs. maples. Best regards Torsten Brinch Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Tim Lamb Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings In message <1178880868.516876.64180@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, iaotb@get2net.dk writes Quote: The same observation applies to SW Denmark. All our ashes remain dormant (as one would expect for this time of year) -- but all the old oaks in our garden have been in full leaf for several weeks, and _that_ is quite extraordinary. I link it to all months having being warmer than normal, since august last year, indeed with several months having set respectable new all time records. Apparently the oaks are sensitive to that, while the ashes stubbornly remain faithful to the calendar. Same observation goes for beeches vs. maples. Hmm.. Garden seeds planted in dry but otherwise good conditions seem reluctant to germinate. I have just put another lot in as a back up. How are your molluscs? regards -- Tim Lamb Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings In article <1178880868.516876.64180@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, iaotb@get2net.dk () wrote: Quote: *From:* iaotb@get2net.dk *Date:* 11 May 2007 03:54:28 -0700 On May 8, 4:36 pm, srawli...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: Oak before ash, expect a splash. Ash before oak, expect a soak. I cannot remember the ash ever being so far behind the oaks as this year. All of the oaks are in full leaf and some of the ash have yet to pop a proper bud. Anyone else noticing this? -- Steve Rawlings The same observation applies to SW Denmark. All our ashes remain dormant (as one would expect for this time of year) -- but all the old oaks in our garden have been in full leaf for several weeks, and _that_ is quite extraordinary. I link it to all months having being warmer than normal, since august last year, indeed with several months having set respectable new all time records. Apparently the oaks are sensitive to that, while the ashes stubbornly remain faithful to the calendar. Same observation goes for beeches vs. maples. An interesting set of observations Torsten. However our maple and beech while later than the oaks are well in front of the ash! Quote: -- Steve Rawlings Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings On May 11, 4:41 pm, srawli...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: Quote: In article <1178880868.516876.64...@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, i...@get2net.dk () wrote: Apparently the oaks are sensitive to that, while the ashes stubbornly remain faithful to the calendar. Same observation goes for beeches vs. maples. An interesting set of observations Torsten. However our maple and beech while later than the oaks are well in front of the ash! What I meant to say is that our beeches sprang in full leaf some weeks earlier than they traditionally 'should' calendarwise, while the maples are leafing as they should, that is, for some weeks and for some individual trees, about now. So beeches apparently also reacted to the warm weather, while maples did not, or much less so. As the oaks did react, while the ashes did not. Another odd thing this year: our oaks leafed a couple of weeks before the beeches even began. I understand, as did yours. Now I do not know if that is unusual where you are, but here it indeed is! Excerpt from an old table, from what used to be 'bible' of Danish nature: Tree Leafing date Beech 9/5 Maple 10/5 Oak 24/5 Ash 24/5 Note though, the table says, depending on 'circumstances' the given leafing date can differ +/- 14 days. However, this year our first oak was in leaf -- on the 10th of April.. Crazy. Best regards Torsten Brinch Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings On May 11, 3:48 pm, Tim Lamb <t...@marford.demon.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Hmm.. Garden seeds planted in dry but otherwise good conditions seem reluctant to germinate. I have just put another lot in as a back up. Now, garden seeds being slow to germinate in dry soil is not out of the order. Quote: How are your molluscs? I am not yet sure of that, but they say it will be a fine season for the famous killer molluscs. Best regards Torsten Brinch Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Jill Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Old sayings iaotb@get2net.dk wrote: Quote: Excerpt from an old table, from what used to be 'bible' of Danish nature: Tree Leafing date Beech 9/5 Maple 10/5 Oak 24/5 Ash 24/5 Hiya Torsten - long time no see ;) Its of a passing interest that Beltane [Mayday] is a festival including gathering the Hawthorn, Elderflowers and the like and is Celtic / Gaelic in root. It is going to be another 2 weeks before we could gather Elderflower. When you look at most of the Wheel of the Year the UK is at least 3 weeks later as a generalisation, and here probably considerably more, than what one might suggest was the norm a couple of millenia ago. -- regards Jill Bowis Pure bred utility chickens and ducks Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery Working Holidays in Scotland http://www.kintaline.co.uk Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Food and beverages Forum Index -> Food and beverages All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum Food and beverages----------------Food and beverages  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum 142 Attacks blocked Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group