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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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On May 11, 7:54 pm, "Jill" <n...@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
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Hiya Torsten - long time no see ;)
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Heya Jill, yeah
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Its of a passing interest that Beltane [Mayday] is a festival including
gathering the Hawthorn, Elderflowers and the like and is Celtic / Gaelic in
root.
It is going to be another 2 weeks before we could gather Elderflower.
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Thusly provoked I went down in the meadow this evening to check how
our
elderflowers are actually doing, many green flower bud clusters they
have
indeed, but I found only a single cluster there that was fully white
in bloom,
so I too expect that for gathering, a few more weeks will have to pass
here too.
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Torsten Brinch |
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Tim Lamb
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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In message <1178905951.549535.95020@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
iaotb@get2net.dk writes
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On May 11, 3:48 pm, Tim Lamb <t...@marford.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Hmm.. Garden seeds planted in dry but otherwise good conditions seem
reluctant to germinate. I have just put another lot in as a back up.
Now, garden seeds being slow to germinate in dry soil is not out of
the order.
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They were watered. Only not with warm rainwater.
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Derek Moody
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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In article <1178912621.306135.51440@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
<URL:mailto:iaotb@get2net.dk> wrote:
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On May 11, 7:54 pm, "Jill" <n...@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
Hiya Torsten - long time no see ;)
Heya Jill, yeah
Its of a passing interest that Beltane [Mayday] is a festival including
gathering the Hawthorn, Elderflowers and the like and is Celtic / Gaelic in
root.
It is going to be another 2 weeks before we could gather Elderflower.
Thusly provoked I went down in the meadow this evening to check how
our
elderflowers are actually doing, many green flower bud clusters they
have
indeed, but I found only a single cluster there that was fully white
in bloom,
so I too expect that for gathering, a few more weeks will have to pass
here too.
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Already eaten the first of the season's elderflower fritters.
But many are still in bud so there will be more - Dorset :-)
Cheerio,
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Derek Moody
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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In article <4644ad2e$0$8716$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Jill
<URL:mailto:news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
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Its of a passing interest that Beltane [Mayday] is a festival including
gathering the Hawthorn, Elderflowers and the like and is Celtic / Gaelic in
root.
It is going to be another 2 weeks before we could gather Elderflower.
When you look at most of the Wheel of the Year the UK is at least 3 weeks
later as a generalisation, and here probably considerably more, than what
one might suggest was the norm a couple of millenia ago.
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How much of it is due to the change of calendar Julian -> Gregorian?
Almost 2 weeks shift depending when your area switched.
Cheerio,
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Elaine Jones
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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Quoting from message <ant112007868BxcK@strongarm.dereks.pad>
posted on 11 May 2007 by Derek Moody
I would like to add:
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In article <4644ad2e$0$8716$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Jill
URL:mailto:news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
Its of a passing interest that Beltane [Mayday] is a festival including
gathering the Hawthorn, Elderflowers and the like and is Celtic / Gaelic in
root.
It is going to be another 2 weeks before we could gather Elderflower.
When you look at most of the Wheel of the Year the UK is at least 3 weeks
later as a generalisation, and here probably considerably more, than what
one might suggest was the norm a couple of millenia ago.
How much of it is due to the change of calendar Julian -> Gregorian?
Almost 2 weeks shift depending when your area switched.
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Yes - I've never been able to understand how Pagans can say that
(e.g.) May 1st is Beltane when it's only the last few centuries that
the current calendar has been in existance. Equinoxes and Soltices are
at dates fixed by other than the Julian calendar but I don't know how
other dates were fixed other than by astrological measurements and
calculations re moon phase in relation to equinox/solstice.
(being eclectic I don't "do" ritual).
Variations on today's date
http://www.moonwise.co.uk/date.php
Moonwise Calendar: Friday 24 Willow Moon 2007
Gregorian Calendar: Friday 11 May 2007
Julian Calendar: Friday 28 April 2007
Gregorian Lunar Calendar: Saturday, twenty-fifth day of the first moon
after the Paschal Moon of 2007 (eve)
Jewish Calendar: Saturday 24 Iyyar 5767 (eve)
Islamic Calendar (London, predicted): Saturday 25 Rabi‘al-Akhir 1428
(eve)
Persian Calendar: Friday 21 Ordibehesht 1386
Bahá’í Calendar: Saturday 15 Jamál 164, twelfth year (Javáb), ninth
Váhid (Bahá), first Kull-i-Shay (eve)
Zoroastrian Calendar: Friday 22 Ardibehest 1377
Sikh Nanakshahi Calendar: Friday 28 Vaisakh 539
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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On 2007-05-11, Derek Moody <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
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In article <4644ad2e$0$8716$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Jill
URL:mailto:news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:
Its of a passing interest that Beltane [Mayday] is a festival including
gathering the Hawthorn, Elderflowers and the like and is Celtic / Gaelic in
root.
It is going to be another 2 weeks before we could gather Elderflower.
When you look at most of the Wheel of the Year the UK is at least 3 weeks
later as a generalisation, and here probably considerably more, than what
one might suggest was the norm a couple of millenia ago.
How much of it is due to the change of calendar Julian -> Gregorian?
Almost 2 weeks shift depending when your area switched.
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I once fed cattle for an old neighbour, who aimed for stopping feeding
on `old may day' (14th May).. several years we missed the target, as
there wouldn't be enough grass.. Hey, I just thought, if Old May day
was 14th in, what, 175?, it would now be later!.. Anyway, whenever
anyone waffles on about how good farming was in the old days, I
reember that old guys farm, 200+acres, with about 110 cattle wandering
around. (he bought in all his feed, twas cheaper than hiring people to
make it).. Another guy, used buy cattle in Spring, sell in autumn
(land was good but heavy), 159 acres, 98 cattle, now that farm is
about 60 acres, the rest divided into 9 pieces. A lot of grass being
lawnmowed and dumped.
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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In article <ant112054b49BxcK@strongarm.dereks.pad>,
derek@farm-direct.co.uk (Derek Moody) wrote:
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Already eaten the first of the season's elderflower fritters.
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Recipie please??
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Derek Moody
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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In article <rMOdncgnqa9VINjbnZ2dnUVZ8turnZ2d@pipex.net>,
<URL:mailto:srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
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In article <ant112054b49BxcK@strongarm.dereks.pad>,
derek@farm-direct.co.uk (Derek Moody) wrote:
Already eaten the first of the season's elderflower fritters.
Recipie please??
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Dead simple :-)
Make an ordinary pancake batter and leave it to stand.
(Or, for extra lightness: Separate the eggs, make the batter with the yolks
and let that stand then just before using beat the whites stiff and fold
in.)
While the gluten in the flour is relaxing nip out to chosen elderflower tree
and pick three or four heads per person - ones just out, still with all
their pollen and as few beetles as possible are preferred.
Clean out any obvious rubbish but don't wash the heads. Holding by the stalk
swish them in the batter and pick out a full 'brush' load, drop directly
into melted butter in hot pan. At once use kitchen scissors to cut away
the stalks as close to the fritter as possible and throw away the stalks.
Flip the fritter and fry other side.
Serve with sugar and cream.
Cheerio,
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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On Wed, 9 May 2007 00:15:38 +0100, Derek Moody
<derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
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In article <1hxtdlw.10vnsfbqfc1q8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
URL:mailto:usenet-uba@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
Derek Moody <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
The horse chestnut candles are over,
Not here, and we're within stone's throw of the south coast. I can see
both Southampton and Portsmouth from the top of the nearest hill.
You must be about 60 miles east of me - funny how tyings change over so
short a distance.
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Not only that but there seems to be a lot of local variation, around
here between the clay over chalk and the coastal sandlings, but even
between areas otherwise seemingly similar: some places the hawthorn is
much more forward than down the road a way.
Ashes are mostly but not entirely backward to the point some look
totally dormant still, and a few oaks are still holding back. Horse
chestnuts are mostly in full flower but only a few elders have started
showing white.
Some rape has pretty much finished flowering, and beans are looking
(and smelling) more like the end of the month than the beginning.
"We live in interesting times" |
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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Derek Moody wrote:
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In article <rMOdncgnqa9VINjbnZ2dnUVZ8turnZ2d@pipex.net>,
URL:mailto:srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
In article <ant112054b49BxcK@strongarm.dereks.pad>,
derek@farm-direct.co.uk (Derek Moody) wrote:
Already eaten the first of the season's elderflower fritters.
Recipie please??
Dead simple :-)
Make an ordinary pancake batter and leave it to stand.
(Or, for extra lightness: Separate the eggs, make the batter with the
yolks and let that stand then just before using beat the whites stiff
and fold in.)
While the gluten in the flour is relaxing nip out to chosen
elderflower tree and pick three or four heads per person - ones just
out, still with all their pollen and as few beetles as possible are
preferred.
Clean out any obvious rubbish but don't wash the heads. Holding by
the stalk swish them in the batter and pick out a full 'brush' load,
drop directly into melted butter in hot pan. At once use kitchen
scissors to cut away the stalks as close to the fritter as possible
and throw away the stalks. Flip the fritter and fry other side.
Serve with sugar and cream.
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TA !
We will have to wait a bit but patience is a virtue
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Jill Bowis
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Housing; Equipment, Books, Videos, Gifts
Herbaceous; Herb and Alpine nursery
Working Holidays in Scotland
http://www.kintaline.co.uk |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Old sayings |
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"Elaine Jones" <elaine@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Now I like that  , Not had time to look at the online ordering to
determine when exactly to buy for "next year". |
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