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Malcolm
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Welfare in Transport regulations Reply with quote

In article <1hxdtwt.14oyb0rfozhpnN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<usenet-uba@malloc.co.uk> writes

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whereas mutton was the main meat we had when I was a child, it's
now unobtainable.

Not if you ask your butcher nicely, it isn't. We had a whole animal from

him last year.

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Two days later she made mutton shank for me. Marinaded in their own wine
with fresh rosemary for 24h then casseroled for 12hours with their own
Ascolana olives. It was perfect, grease skimmed as it cooked and the
wine transformed into a gold-brown sauce. Simply delicious, and so much
more flavour than lamb.

Couldn't agree more.

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Welfare in Transport regulations Reply with quote

Quoting from message <6ud0PbkY+0NGFwP3@indaal.demon.co.uk>
posted on 1 May 2007 by Malcolm
I would like to add:

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In article <1hxdtwt.14oyb0rfozhpnN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
usenet-uba@malloc.co.uk> writes

whereas mutton was the main meat we had when I was a child, it's
now unobtainable.

Not if you ask your butcher nicely, it isn't. We had a whole animal from
him last year.

There are farms round here selling mutton as well as lamb.

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Welfare in Transport regulations Reply with quote

"Elaine Jones" <elaine@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1df238dc4e.E@cae-coed.zetnet.co.uk...
Quote:
Quoting from message <6ud0PbkY+0NGFwP3@indaal.demon.co.uk
posted on 1 May 2007 by Malcolm
I would like to add:


In article <1hxdtwt.14oyb0rfozhpnN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
usenet-uba@malloc.co.uk> writes

whereas mutton was the main meat we had when I was a child, it's
now unobtainable.

Not if you ask your butcher nicely, it isn't. We had a whole animal from
him last year.

There are farms round here selling mutton as well as lamb.

we have sold a couple as well.


To people who go for flavour


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Albert Ross
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Welfare in Transport regulations Reply with quote

On 30 Apr 2007 13:04:40 GMT, greymaus@gmaildo.tcom wrote:

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On 2007-04-30, srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk <srawlings@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:

had Lamb Henry last night at a local pub

Wossat?

Lamb shank with gravy of some desciption.

Aah! We get that from Costco, same as a lot of restaraunts. Only prob is
that it is from Oz. Nice mind :-)


Having nothing to do yesterday evening, and with a cold wind blowing,
I went to Tesco, wandered along the aisles (amazingly, nobody gave me a
dollar for a cup of coffee), and thought of how good food has gone out
of fashion, even yer old potato is reconstituted as crisps.. 80% of
the food items are rubbish.. and that's before you get to the spurious
health claims. Spell worked however, people started to ring up to see
me.

Must be twenty years or so since I last went in a Tesco.

Even in the Co-Op though, there are whole aisles of stuff I don't
regard as "food" (and even more due to the diabetes and the seeming
need for everything to be overstuffed with carbs). "Low fat" has some
serious medical downsides.

It's that thing I was working on, about "added value", compare the
price of crisps with the price of potatoes ex-farm, per tonne . . .

I like the idea of "fair trade" products but they sit strangely
alongside the milk which costs more to produce than they pay for it.

Nice idea about the mutton though, I shall ask the butcher when we
have a few hours spare to cook some . . . "fast food" tonight, lamb
chops with rosemary, cooks about as fast as I can do last night's
washing up
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Welfare in Transport regulations Reply with quote

On 2007-05-12, Albert Ross <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Must be twenty years or so since I last went in a Tesco.

Even in the Co-Op though, there are whole aisles of stuff I don't
regard as "food" (and even more due to the diabetes and the seeming
need for everything to be overstuffed with carbs). "Low fat" has some
serious medical downsides.

Lots of people getting diabetes..and a hard condition to treat,
doctors say.. Old friend was in hospital with the sawbones starting to
decide whether to cut off his toes, big accident, beds had to be
cleared, he was sent out to a home, when he was checked later they decided
not to operate, so he sits in the home, telling everyone who visits
that he is getting home `tomorrow'. And, no, I can't face visiting
him.

Quote:

It's that thing I was working on, about "added value", compare the
price of crisps with the price of potatoes ex-farm, per tonne . . .

I like the idea of "fair trade" products but they sit strangely
alongside the milk which costs more to produce than they pay for it.

Nice idea about the mutton though, I shall ask the butcher when we
have a few hours spare to cook some . . . "fast food" tonight, lamb
chops with rosemary, cooks about as fast as I can do last night's
washing up


Yes, they would need something. Everyone I know has a couple of last
years left, and I was thinking of putting my one in the deep freeze
(after slaughtering it ((maybe?))), but the suggestion is not popular.


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Albert Ross
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Welfare in Transport regulations Reply with quote

On 12 May 2007 18:03:41 GMT, greymaus@gmaildo.tcom wrote:

Quote:
On 2007-05-12, Albert Ross <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote:
Must be twenty years or so since I last went in a Tesco.

Even in the Co-Op though, there are whole aisles of stuff I don't
regard as "food" (and even more due to the diabetes and the seeming
need for everything to be overstuffed with carbs). "Low fat" has some
serious medical downsides.

Lots of people getting diabetes..and a hard condition to treat,
doctors say..

Well that entirely depends, current "treatment" is to stuff people who
are intolerant to carbohydrates on a high carb low fat diet, watch the
glucose go up and up and throw drugs at it . . .IMNSHO it's the "low
fat" supposedly healthy diet which is behind many current "epidemics"
of genetically-determined disaeses which were never so prevalent when
people ate lard (and mutton <G>), it may be good for a certain
proportion, even the majority of the population (though some studies
refute even that) but for anyone with diabetic "thrifty" genes which
may be as much as 30% of the population it's not healthy (except if
they have shares in Kelloggs etc. and use the profits to buy fish and
vegetables)

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Old friend was in hospital with the sawbones starting to
decide whether to cut off his toes, big accident, beds had to be
cleared, he was sent out to a home, when he was checked later they decided
not to operate, so he sits in the home, telling everyone who visits
that he is getting home `tomorrow'. And, no, I can't face visiting
him.

<shudder>

My sympathies.

Big news here, the cottage hospital which closed "temporarily" last
year has actually reopened, I had virtual money on it staying closed
and being converted into yuppie flats. Another thing which IMNSHO
isn;t that "healthy" is sticking ill people in a huge building the
size of some towns entirely full of *other* ill people. At least they
haven't considered gassing the occupants to prevent the spread of MSRA
(yet)

Quote:
It's that thing I was working on, about "added value", compare the
price of crisps with the price of potatoes ex-farm, per tonne . . .

I like the idea of "fair trade" products but they sit strangely
alongside the milk which costs more to produce than they pay for it.

Nice idea about the mutton though, I shall ask the butcher when we
have a few hours spare to cook some . . . "fast food" tonight, lamb
chops with rosemary, cooks about as fast as I can do last night's
washing up


Yes, they would need something. Everyone I know has a couple of last
years left, and I was thinking of putting my one in the deep freeze
(after slaughtering it ((maybe?))), but the suggestion is not popular.

Hmmm, it must be about 40 years since I last ate mutton but I don't
recall it being that bad if cooked enough. Much like lamb only tougher
with a darker flavour, sort of the opposite of goat . . .

. . . call it Organic Lamb . . .could start a new market . . .
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