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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Train Crash Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Train Crash Reply with quote

In article <c220v2pcs9n13f69tt5tfnrqfelf520p2e@4ax.com>,
Albert Ross <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote:


Quote:
Road accidents barely mentioned? "News" is generally understood as meaning
something remarkable (unusual being one reason for remark). Guess road
accidents are so common as to be unremarkable.

Quite.

Much the same with accidents involving what used to be called HGVs,
due to the moving masses involved they are more newsworthy than the
average car crash, however when you look at accidents per vehicle mile
(or kilometre) they are the safest vehicles on the road (or were).

They can also be the most courteous.

I used to have to cross a busy road on my walk to the station. No
pedestrian crossing places so it was a case of getting across a constant
stream of vehicles moving at a slow crawl. You walked forward to show your
wish to cross and waited for one of the slowmoving vehicles to slow further
to let you across; it was more often than not a commercial vehicle that
slowed although they were in the minority I would say.

A belated thankyou to those concerned.

Jane

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Jane G : j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk : S Devon
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: "Fowl Play in Bird Flu" (by Dr Mae-Wan Ho, ISIS, Fri 5- Reply with quote

"Sandy" <junk.rubbish@alma-services.abel.co.uk> wrote in message
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[ Print article using a 'typewriter' font (like Courier) 439 lines ]


Fowl Play in Bird Flu
---------------------

by Dr. Mae-Wan Ho
ISIS Press Release
Friday 5 May 2006

a bit more up to date would be nice
There is an awful lot of stuff been released since then

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Train Crash Reply with quote

"Oz" <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote in message
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Albert Ross <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> writes
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:55:18 +0000, Oz <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote:

Albert Ross <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> writes
One thing I hadn't realised with the major increase in road travel,
train usage has also increased massively over the years. How much more
there might have been if Beeching never existed we'll never know.

Thankfully.

God only knows what the subsidy would be today if we had all those
thousands of branch lines.

Note that road pays $$$$$$ in net tax and rail costs $$$$$$ in net tax.

Foreign people seem much better at balancing these books than we ever
were.

Not so. The french subsidy is enormous, for example.
Ditto swiss and probably german too


..yet a narrow gauge railway in the lakes manages to survive with tourism in
the summer and a winter timetable that provides a service to locals, without
the tourists it probably wouldn't work,

Quote:

It's 19C technology ferchristsake.

just wander round your house and ponder how much technology of the 19th
century and before you have ;-))


Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: lawnmower driver Reply with quote

"Stephen Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
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greymaus@gmaildo.tcom> wrote:

One thing I noticed, that a lot of people have
remarked in the rural Midwest, as in farming areas in the UK and here,
few young people.

The same in Italy. I'm a youngster in my village, most people are in
their 80s.

house prices don't help.

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: police brutality Reply with quote

"Old Codger" <oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net> wrote in message
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I doubt Howard will respond but would be interested in his answer
Haven't seen Howard about recently and he hasn't replied to an e-mail sent
a couple of days ago. Presume he is busy and hope it is nothing untoward.

might have started lambing

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Re: police brutality Reply with quote

"Oh No" <NotI@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Thus spake David G. Bell <dbell@zhochaka.org.uk
On Thursday, in article
HON95YH2s87FFw2+@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk
NotI@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk "Oh No" wrote:

I find it quite shocking that senior police should attempt to justify
such an incident. Reasonable force when three officers are attempting to
handcuff a young woman does not include gratuities brutality.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/6428865.stm

I haven't seen the video, but the description in The Yorkshire Post says
it isn't clear where the punches are aimed. I can't, myself, see how
punching somebody can be a good way of subduing them with minimum
reasonable force. Consider the medical reaction to a case of possible
concussion.

The CCTV does not enable one to say where punches were aimed, though it
is clear they were not at her face. The thing which has made this seem
particularly bad is claims that the policemen was acting in self
defence, which was clearly not the case. That claim casts doubt on
anything the police say, as does the fact that there is another version
that he was hitting her on the upper arm in order to numb the arm, but
that after hitting her five times as hard as he could, this had no
effect - again that is consistent with the claim she was having an
epileptic fit.


it is also consistant with someone being high on drugs.

If the police are having to deal with someone violent and aggressive outside
a nightclub, a combination of drink and drugs is far more likely than an
epileptic fit

Indeed it might well have been a combination of drink and drugs that was
doing it, albeit legal drugs for her medical condition.

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Train Crash Reply with quote

Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes

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Oz
It's 19C technology ferchristsake.

just wander round your house and ponder how much technology of the 19th
century and before you have ;-))

There is very little C19 stuff where it has a more efficient C21
equivalent.

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This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Train Crash Reply with quote

"Oz" <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote in message
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Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes

Oz
It's 19C technology ferchristsake.

just wander round your house and ponder how much technology of the 19th
century and before you have ;-))

There is very little C19 stuff where it has a more efficient C21
equivalent.

they haven't improved door catches much, and tables and chairs work just
fine ;-)
Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Train Crash Reply with quote

Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes
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"Oz" <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote in message
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Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes

Oz
It's 19C technology ferchristsake.

just wander round your house and ponder how much technology of the 19th
century and before you have ;-))

There is very little C19 stuff where it has a more efficient C21
equivalent.

they haven't improved door catches much, and tables and chairs work just
fine ;-)

Absolutely.

Door handles ditto.

But few people shave with a cut-throat razor these days or ride a horse
to work.

--
Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Train Crash Reply with quote

"Oz" <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote in message
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Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes
"Oz" <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote in message
news:swvEUgAHmT8FFw5X@farmeroz.port995.com...
Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes

Oz
It's 19C technology ferchristsake.

just wander round your house and ponder how much technology of the 19th
century and before you have ;-))

There is very little C19 stuff where it has a more efficient C21
equivalent.

they haven't improved door catches much, and tables and chairs work just
fine ;-)

Absolutely.

Door handles ditto.

But few people shave with a cut-throat razor these days or ride a horse
to work.


but they were 19th Century BC technology that had just hung on, in the same
way that we still use technologies invented then

Jim Webster
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Hello from the sunny climate of North Yorkshire - Joke Reply with quote

"Tim Lamb" <tim@marford.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <45eb4189$0$32014$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, Old Codger

Umm.. I suspect Demon are the same. Collecting from POP3 and rejecting
anything other than the exact address cuts spam to around 20 per day but
rejecting 400 on the server takes a significant time and on dial-up,
money:-( Don't ask about *postmaster*)

I don't see how I could sue Demon for auto rejecting mail with my name
mis-spelled.


I am with demon, you can log in to see only those with exactly the correct
name.
Occasionaly logging in to the POP3 account to download the remaining
rubbish into a delete bucket.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: alledged police brutality Reply with quote

"Jill" <news@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote in message
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In some forms of epilepsy - not all

I understood "consolidation time" of 20 mins was just the way the brain

works, regardless of how conciousness was lost.
However I know nothing of epilepsy. Which appears to be about the same as
the girl making accusations.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: alleged police brutality Reply with quote

"Oh No" <NotI@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Thus spake Old Codger <oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net


I would not support police violance but it appears that the girl has a
recent conviction for criminal damage has a court payment to
pay of nearly a months of her income. Is living on state aid of £80 while
bringing up one child and clearly spends a significant proportion of it
drinking and clubbing. The girl does not have cedibility, so we must depend
on a detailed analysis of the video, a medical report on the injuries as to
probable nature of cause and her undiagnosed epilepsy. There are also at
least 2 other police officers who can witness the exact nature of the
incident.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: police brutality Reply with quote

"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote:
Indeed it might well have been a combination of drink and drugs that was
doing it, albeit legal drugs for her medical condition.

She claims to be self diagnosed, unsupported by her GP. Not taking any

drugs as she is trying for a second child.
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