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Old Codger
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 Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: Re: alleged police brutality |
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"Oh No" <NotI@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:FNtN5UdpNJ8FFw$4@charlesfrancis.wanadoo.co.uk...
Thus spake Old Codger <oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net
I would not support police violance but it appears that the girl has a
recent conviction for criminal damage has a court payment to
pay of nearly a months of her income. Is living on state aid of £80 while
bringing up one child and clearly spends a significant proportion of it
drinking and clubbing. The girl does not have cedibility, so we must depend
on a detailed analysis of the video, a medical report on the injuries as to
probable nature of cause and her undiagnosed epilepsy. There are also at
least 2 other police officers who can witness the exact nature of the
incident.
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I have come across a bit more information since I posted last night. It
appears this incident occurred last June so the young lady? in question
has waited for media coverage *before* complaining about the actions of
the officer.
As I think I said last night, the CC said she did not have, and did not
need, medical attention following the arrest. This strongly suggests,
to me, that she was uninjured and did not have an epileptic fit. The
more I learn about this incident the more it appears, to me, that she is
just gold digging.
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Old Codger
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: Re: police brutality |
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Jim Webster wrote:
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"Old Codger" <oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net> wrote in message
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I doubt Howard will respond but would be interested in his answer
Haven't seen Howard about recently and he hasn't replied to an e-mail sent
a couple of days ago. Presume he is busy and hope it is nothing untoward.
might have started lambing
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That was my assumption, as holiday seemed unlikely when lambs might be
due, or possibly some unwelcome happening. As you can see from Howard's
post it was the third eventuality but fortunately not the sort of
happening that I feared.
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Old Codger
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: Re: If You Want Conspiracy Theories |
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Albert Ross wrote:
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Mind you I'm feeling suddenly a lot better and more optimistic since
catching a few rays, the hibernation response is much reduced, one of
the things the nicotine/caffeine combo works well against. I suspect
Zyban would work well but not sure how nicely it would play with my
other meds. Next week mother has some hospital visits, maybe I'll see
if I can get to the GP the following week . . .
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Zyban? I think that is what I had, got asked today and couldn't remember.
It worked for me and I was not terribly serious about it.
Reluctantly agreed to "see the nurse who had pills that would make
cigarettes taste awful". Having agreed I felt I had to at least try to
follow the rules, but not try too hard.
There was no change to the taste of the cigarettes but the pills did
suppress the craving. The rules were something like "pick a day about
ten days after commencing the pills to stop smoking. One then continued
with the pills for a complete month (I think), perhaps longer.
I picked a day and on the evening before I found I did not want all of
the cigarettes I was smoking. I had no trouble at all stopping the next
day and did not have any cravings until some weeks after I had completed
the course of pills. When the craving did return it did not last long,
but was fairly frequent at first. There are still times when I could
die for a fag but it quickly passes.
During the treatment I continued to attend the Friday sessions at the
pub, collecting a colleague who was a heavy smoker. I allowed him to
continue smoking in the car and there was smoke all around me in the
pub. It didn't bother me at all during and after the treatment and
still doesn't. I also had about 200 cigarettes around the house until I
had decided that I had given up.
The funniest was my last visit to the nurse, at the end of treatment.
"Had I still not smoked?" "Yes, I haven't smoked since 'stop smoking
day.'" Good, blow into this please." "What's that for? To see if I am
telling the truth?" "Err, err, yes"
I probably helped the surgery get another bonus.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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Jim Webster wrote:
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Infectious Bovine Rhinotracheitis
There is some vaccination for it in this country, but not a lot
I'll have a check around,
From our vet |
"Bovipast £4.83 ex VATand Rispoval intranasal £5.83 ex VAT a dose,
these are the 2 vaccines we use most in young animals. Bovipast you
need 2 doses and Intranasal 1 dose."
We vaccinated before moving to calf hutches. Much healthier now
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J F Temple & Son Ltd
Mrs Temple's Cheese - Quality Norfolk Produce
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Jim Webster
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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"Albert Ross" <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote in message
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. . . I have seen a 44 tonne artic forced to reverse up a narrow lane
by Mrs Volvo-Who-Had-Forgotten-Her-Reverse-Gear
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get a lot of them in the Lake District
I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
Jim Webster |
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Jane Gillett
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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In article <55e60hF23q2l7U1@mid.individual.net>,
Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
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"Albert Ross" <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:k593v25anoa6mc7niuuo5qc4b2a8he7os8@4ax.com...
. . . I have seen a 44 tonne artic forced to reverse up a narrow lane
by Mrs Volvo-Who-Had-Forgotten-Her-Reverse-Gear
get a lot of them in the Lake District
I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
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A sight will live with me (happily) forever, I think.
On a country road, on a very soggy day. Came up behind a caravan
stationary. As nothing seemed to happen for a while I got out and went to
see what was going on. Two car/caravan combinations facing each other, by a
field gate (and muddy lake), both saying they couldn't reverse and a very wet cow standing
with its head over the gate avidly watching the proceedings. Backed out and
went another way. AFAIK they may be there still.
Cheers
Jane
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Jane Gillett
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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In article <55dmh3F23vi01U1@mid.individual.net>,
Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
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greymaus@gmaildo.tcom> wrote in message
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On 2007-03-09, Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
Absolutely.
Door handles ditto.
But few people shave with a cut-throat razor these days or ride a horse
to work.
but they were 19th Century BC technology that had just hung on, in the
same
way that we still use technologies invented then
Hi Jim, the NZ thing I mentioned recently is something called IBR (B
presumably for Bovine).. There is a problem, it seems, between the NZ
practice of vaccinating/innoculating and local practice..
Infectious Bovine Rhinotracheitis
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As a matter of interest is there a sheep equivalent? We used to get a
recurring catarr (sp?) - snot problem - in our sheep from time to time. Vet
tested it but couldn't find anything so we just lived with it. Not
generally a problem unless you happened to be at the head end in the
milking parlour - then you were in the firing line for sneezes at close
quarters. AFAIK I never caught anything though.....
Jane
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There is some vaccination for it in this country, but not a lot
I'll have a check around,
Jim Webster
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Jane Gillett
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: Re: police brutality |
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In article <ess20a$9ba$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
Fata Morgana <fata.morgana@taekwondo.co.nz> wrote:
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"Jim Webster" <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:55cm0qF24btoiU5@mid.individual.net...
Indeed it might well have been a combination of drink and drugs that was
doing it, albeit legal drugs for her medical condition.
She claims to be self diagnosed, unsupported by her GP. Not taking any
drugs as she is trying for a second child.
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Heaven help the child if she succeeds. And the current one.
Jane
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Oz
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes
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I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
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Correct. The mindless dribbling gits.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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On 2007-03-09, Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
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"Albert Ross" <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:k593v25anoa6mc7niuuo5qc4b2a8he7os8@4ax.com...
. . . I have seen a 44 tonne artic forced to reverse up a narrow lane
by Mrs Volvo-Who-Had-Forgotten-Her-Reverse-Gear
get a lot of them in the Lake District
I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
Jim Webster
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Lad who was in Agricultural collage told me that they had a
longest-queue competition when he was there.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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On 2007-03-10, Oz <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote:
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Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes
I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
Correct. The mindless dribbling gits.
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From the last memories of droving (bringing stock on foot by road),
the thing was to have the sheep blocking the whole road, no gaps, or
the drivers would try to pass without slowing down. That was about 3
miles on a back road, one mile on a main road. The three of us just
sat on the grass when we got the sheep off the road, and agreed
``Never again''.
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Jim Webster
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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<greymaus@gmaildo.tcom> wrote in message
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On 2007-03-09, Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
"Albert Ross" <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:k593v25anoa6mc7niuuo5qc4b2a8he7os8@4ax.com...
. . . I have seen a 44 tonne artic forced to reverse up a narrow lane
by Mrs Volvo-Who-Had-Forgotten-Her-Reverse-Gear
get a lot of them in the Lake District
I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer
and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to
the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
Jim Webster
Lad who was in Agricultural collage told me that they had a
longest-queue competition when he was there.
we used to play "who can get the most cars backing in front of them" when we |
were silaging. As this involved us travelling down narrow lanes pulling
silage trailers we couldn't be expected to back because we couldn't see
whether there was anyone behind us.
Finally I caught an entire eleven car rally, which was felt to be the all
time winner. The real fun bit of that was the lad who was at the back of the
rally managed to nip into a gate way and watched with glee as the ten cars
in front of him were forced to back past him, he gave me a big smile and a
thumbs up sign before roaring off again when I was past.
Jim Webster |
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Jim Webster
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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<greymaus@gmaildo.tcom> wrote in message
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On 2007-03-10, Oz <Oz@farmeroz.port995.com> wrote:
Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> writes
I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer
and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to
the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
Correct. The mindless dribbling gits.
From the last memories of droving (bringing stock on foot by road),
the thing was to have the sheep blocking the whole road, no gaps, or
the drivers would try to pass without slowing down. That was about 3
miles on a back road, one mile on a main road. The three of us just
sat on the grass when we got the sheep off the road, and agreed
``Never again''.
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We have had to move livestock on the main road, rarely ours, normally
helping neighbours or police recover stuff that has escaped (in one case
some clown in a bread van backed into a gate when turning round and left the
gate open behind him).
when the police are there they tend to keep out of the road, and merely
materialise to deal with Motorists. This is the best combination, and it
only takes one of them ostentatiously visible to maintain dignity and calm.
When we are on our own we have had to resort to parking vehicles in roads
with hazard warning lights flashing.
A generation ago a neighbour had his 12 year old daughter turning dairy cows
off the road into a gateway and someone in the front car started giving her
a mouthful of abuse.
This choked off rapidly when one of the lads working for him reached into
the car, grabbed him firmly by the tie and pulled him half out of the car
through his open window and asked him if he would care to repeat anything.
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Malcolm
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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In article <4ec15a175fj.gillett@higherstert.co.uk>, Jane Gillett
<j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk> writes
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In article <55e60hF23q2l7U1@mid.individual.net>,
Jim Webster <jim@websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote:
"Albert Ross" <spam@dev_null.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:k593v25anoa6mc7niuuo5qc4b2a8he7os8@4ax.com...
. . . I have seen a 44 tonne artic forced to reverse up a narrow lane
by Mrs Volvo-Who-Had-Forgotten-Her-Reverse-Gear
get a lot of them in the Lake District
I have driven over the Corney fell road with tractor and cattle trailer and
people in cars will drive past a passing place and expect me to back to the
next one.
I have now adopted the policy of placing my left hand wheels on the very
edge of the tarmac and stopping, if they want to come past me they can.
A sight will live with me (happily) forever, I think.
On a country road, on a very soggy day. Came up behind a caravan
stationary. As nothing seemed to happen for a while I got out and went to
see what was going on. Two car/caravan combinations facing each other, by a
field gate (and muddy lake), both saying they couldn't reverse and a
very wet cow standing
with its head over the gate avidly watching the proceedings. Backed out and
went another way. AFAIK they may be there still.
We used to live at the end of a 200-yard lane with just room by the |
house to turn a car. A car/caravan combo once came along the lane having
missed the turning into a farm caravan site where the lane joined the
road. The driver said he couldn't reverse (he'd only just bought the
caravan and hadn't yet learnt how!) and suggested that if we unhooked
the caravan we might be able to manhandle it round. I pointed out that
not only was the width of the lane considerably less than the length of
his caravan but that although he could turn his car it would then be
behind the caravan! He next asked if he could use our phone (pre mobile
days) to get hold of the AA at which I suggested that it would be much
quicker if I reversed it for him. Once I had done so, he was so
embarrassed that his wife had to tell him to say thank you to me!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Train Crash |
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On 2007-03-10, Jane Gillett <j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
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Infectious Bovine Rhinotracheitis
As a matter of interest is there a sheep equivalent? We used to get a
recurring catarr (sp?) - snot problem - in our sheep from time to time. Vet
tested it but couldn't find anything so we just lived with it. Not
generally a problem unless you happened to be at the head end in the
milking parlour - then you were in the firing line for sneezes at close
quarters. AFAIK I never caught anything though.....
Jane
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The first I heard of it was in local farming papers, as a problem to
be dealt with bringing semen from N.Z.. According to Oz, it occurs in
the U.K., (and if so, probably here too).. Consulting vet books will
give you a myriad of diseases of sheep that sound similiar. Infected
back teeth in aged ewes will block up their sinuses.
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